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Not so sure I'd agree P. Seems with all of the quality control issues plaguing the MOCO these days, and the great press Victory and Indian are getting on their new bikes, Harley is finally going to have a legit competitor. I think it is sound marketing strategy to unveil their new offerings at the same time as the other makers, unless their products are seen as inferior in comparison, then it just might bite 'em in the a$$.If they do in fact have the 2016s in Sturgis I'd say it has more to do with their deal as the official scooter than any pressure from Indian. You gotta sell a whole lot more product to be able to exert any pressure.