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2 years ago a local dealer had to do rod bearings and also changed the lifters otherwise I would have missed Sharkweek (I had S&S lifters in it from a stage 1 and to this day question the lifter change). 2 years later, on my way back from Sharkweek in Deadwood, the upper end really started making ungodly noises, even though it still ran strong. (commented in this thread) https://www.roadglide.org/3-*general-road-glide-discussions-pictures/377073-holy-crow-these-things-got-expensive.html

Luckily for me, Dave who originally did the stage 1 (excellent guy and awesome dyno tuner) has his new shop open in PA so off it goes. He is worth the trip out of state. After some digging inside even he mentioned he could not even figure out what lifters the dealer actually put back into my bike. The lifters were blackened pretty bad for only having 12k on them they did not match anything he has seen before !!!!! After some discussions, and being that the crank is in awesome shape (runout only 2 thousands) I was thinking to myself, well if Dave is already into the motor …………. :grin: :grin: :grin:
what are you having done, if i might inquire?
I'm very curious to hear Dave's report on his motor work. A cam change is a whole lot cheaper than a new bike.
Again as much as I WOULD LOVE one of his 124 builds, budget is not there. (budget not even there for this one ) We discussed one of his 110 builds including ported heads, new cam, new head pipe, new larger throttle body, variable pressure clutch, etc. etc. and of course, Dave doing the Dyno tuning.
Ultimate goal is reliability with more mid-range toque and a smooth tune for fun riding while 2 up with gear, not top horsepower. I’m thinking 130 ft-lb would be perfect >:)!!

The funny thing is towards the end of our conversation when I said “ F-it, let’s do it!” Dave commented back “Awesome. I had already sent the heads out!” Well, I guess Dave knows me better than I thought. :laugh::laugh:

A new Motor is a lot cheaper than a new bike, I can’t want to see the torque number Dave gets from this. :cool:
 

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Well. I received a call today from Dave. He found metal embedded in the piston skirts!! Uh oh!!. The high volume oil pump installed by Harley 2 years ago had a lot of scoring on the scavenging side. He is thinking maybe from poor installation??? (again supports @Nordic Berserker comment above).
Now it looks like a reality of having to replace the crank! He feels confident with this build of using a welded and balanced Harley crank rather then spending a ton more money on a S&S crank. He even mentioned that he has noticed multiple increases in S&S pricing.

With low runout, are you going gear cams?
This will be a discussion when he calls me back with complete details, my budget is now really blown, so I may not be able too!
UGH!! Oh well, I do what I have to do to ride.

Still have no desire of a new bike yet!
 

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Marc sorry to hear about your engine trouble.
Hopefully, you'll be able to get everything fixed properly this time around.
Sounds like Dave has a very good reputation.
As far as Dealerships for repairs, My 12 has never been there as I am capable of doing all My Own Repairs.
Best of Luck Bro!
Keep Us posted on how it all goes.
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Going with a upgraded crank. Plan on keeping this bike for many more years so now is the time to do it and forget it!!!

Have to figure out budget changes to make this work but I know it will be worth it in the end

This basically sums up this weekend!!!



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Does this mean I’ll have less competition in the raffle at SWX? Seriously, it may hurt the budget a bit, but go ahead and do the engine the way you want it. Although I’m extremely happy with the engine in my 10, I still wish I would’ve gone a little larger since I did crank work. I should have enlarged the bore on the case and gone 117. My 10 will still run circles around my 17.
 

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Does this mean I’ll have less competition in the raffle at SWX? Seriously, it may hurt the budget a bit, but go ahead and do the engine the way you want it. Although I’m extremely happy with the engine in my 10, I still wish I would’ve gone a little larger since I did crank work. I should have enlarged the bore on the case and gone 117. My 10 will still run circles around my 17.


Looks like you will be the big winner again at Sharkweek!!


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Marc any news on Your engine work?
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Mike, I put it here so it doesn't distract from the fun in the other thread :)

Bottom half is already built. The only item we are waiting on are the heads to come back from the machinist.
Then it should only be a couple of days.

Once i get the results after tuning, ill post it here.


I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas! :). I don't care how cold it gets, I cant wait to ride this thing!!!!!!
 

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Mike, I put it here so it doesn't distract from the fun in the other thread :)

Bottom half is already built. The only item we are waiting on are the heads to come back from the machinist.
Then it should only be a couple of days.

Once i get the results after tuning, ill post it here.


I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas! :). I don't care how cold it gets, I cant wait to ride this thing!!!!!!
Great news Marc!
Looking forward to how well You like the build.
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Dave is a good guy had him tune a couple bikes for me before he went to Pocono Harley. Glad he's back on his own. I'll be putting a cam in mine in a couple weeks and then let him work his magic.I'm sure you'll be more than happy when you get yours back. Fck the cold enjoy that beast!
 

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I may have to take a nice ride out there in the Spring to have him work his magic on My 12 Custom.
I'm sure he can pull a little more out of it.
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Totally missed this thread. Man I hate that it’s snowballed on you but it sounds like you were going to have to deal with this anyway. It might be a good thing you caught it early. What compression are you going with?
 

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Totally missed this thread. Man I hate that it’s snowballed on you but it sounds like you were going to have to deal with this anyway. It might be a good thing you caught it early. What compression are you going with?
Eddie, i am leaving this one completely in Dave's hands. Going through all of this all I want s a solid reliable build, with a smooth torque curve.

And of course, i want the torque above 130 >:)

Once i get the results, ill let you know what the final numbers are
 

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Where is this guy Dave in Penn Mischief? Just curious and how many miles did you have on your scoot? It's a 103 or 96 inch, sorry for all the questions just curious, good luck on this build kicking some serious butt
 

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Where is this guy Dave in Penn Mischief? Just curious and how many miles did you have on your scoot? It's a 103 or 96 inch, sorry for all the questions just curious, good luck on this build kicking some serious butt
I had a 103 with a stage 1. almost 60k on the motor but the dealership had thier hands in it when Dave took a couple of years off. (all when the EPA BS hit Harley, I am so glad he is back!!) Praying for a mild winter so I can try it out!
He is a super nice guy. PM me and I will send you his information (i believe it is against forum rules just to post them here)
 
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