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Never had one on a bike but have used several Whistler models in cars. I have found that they are very good at letting you know that you are about to get a ticket. A cop friend told me that a lot of the larger police forces out there are using lasers so if your detector goes off, it's too late.
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Nice looking Radar Kit...let us know if you go for it
..but like you say...one day It will happen..just to easy to throtlle up and fast!
Nice looking Radar Kit...let us know if you go for it
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Going to give it a shot. My radar on my car has saved me a few thousand $$$$ and I've had a few close ones aound here. Will let you know how it installs.
Update--had one but never installed. A hassle to install. Sold it on ebay
That's only true if you are the only one on the road. He's talking about instant on lasers that are only detectable when they are clocking a vehicle and they don't stay on. Most detectors will find it when they hit another vehicle first to let you know long before you get there. If you happen to be the only one on the road you are screwed but most rural areas are still using older guns.
I'm interested in hearing how this works and if it looks like it would fit the air gauge pod. I can't use it in VA but anywhere else would be cool. 15yrs of riding sport bikes I never got a ticket. The first ride on the RG 74/55.
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Yes, I believe it's suppose to fit there
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I've used the Valentine One and the Passport 8500 with remote heads up light that I have velcro mounted inside my helmet. These two are the best available and will not alert Canadian cops with leaky radiation that the cheap models are know for.
I use mine in Virginia and everywhere else. If used properly you can get lazer scatter to give a proper alert. The trick to using any detector is to let someone else lead. There is always someone who will get out front. If I am the fastest I will fall back to find a young kid, pass him or her, and wait for the victim to pass me again and then slowly let that one create a 1/4 mile buffer.
It is important to read the operator's manual. Valentine has a really good one that describes how to interpret different signals which indicate from where the radar is located: ahead, behind, following, etc.
Also, get the book A Speeder's Guide to Avoiding Speeding Tickets. Written by a retired New York State Trooper who stated in a public forum, "it has nothing to do with safety, it is about revenue".
Check out Legal Speeding for detectors sold with the heads up displays. Then mount the detector out of site. And remember that there is a real difference with the more pricey units. Tests prove it. For me, these things pay for themselves in one season.
I've used the Valentine One and the Passport 8500 with remote heads up light that I have velcro mounted inside my helmet. These two are the best available and will not alert Canadian cops with leaky radiation that the cheap models are know for.
I use mine in Virginia and everywhere else. If used properly you can get lazer scatter to give a proper alert. The trick to using any detector is to let someone else lead. There is always someone who will get out front. If I am the fastest I will fall back to find a young kid, pass him or her, and wait for the victim to pass me again and then slowly let that one create a 1/4 mile buffer.
It is important to read the operator's manual. Valentine has a really good one that describes how to interpret different signals which indicate from where the radar is located: ahead, behind, following, etc.
Also, get the book A Speeder's Guide to Avoiding Speeding Tickets. Written by a retired New York State Trooper who stated in a public forum, "it has nothing to do with safety, it is about revenue".
Check out Legal Speeding for detectors sold with the heads up displays. Then mount the detector out of site. And remember that there is a real difference with the more pricey units. Tests prove it. For me, these things pay for themselves in one season.
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·Laser Jammer - Infinitely Better Protection
I've done a lot of research on this topic lately for my own personal use and currently run a Passport 9500i (truck) in Florida. While making runs across State was shot by FHP Trooper using the instant-on feature; I called Escort while enroute and they told me no way to protect against this with radar detection. After reviewing jammers (check your State for legality) the Laser Interceptor wins hands down in all the sites I've reviewed...one cited 3 FHP shooting Lidar and after driver with Laser Interceptor passed them they were all looking at their radar guns confused they were not getting any readings. See link here for more information http://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/673.html
I have no personal affliation with Laser Interceptor...just want what works and this seems to be it. Can be mounted on MC but have to mount receiver in waterproof location. Hope this is helpful to all who are looking on RG Forum.
I've done a lot of research on this topic lately for my own personal use and currently run a Passport 9500i (truck) in Florida. While making runs across State was shot by FHP Trooper using the instant-on feature; I called Escort while enroute and they told me no way to protect against this with radar detection. After reviewing jammers (check your State for legality) the Laser Interceptor wins hands down in all the sites I've reviewed...one cited 3 FHP shooting Lidar and after driver with Laser Interceptor passed them they were all looking at their radar guns confused they were not getting any readings. See link here for more information http://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/673.html
I have no personal affliation with Laser Interceptor...just want what works and this seems to be it. Can be mounted on MC but have to mount receiver in waterproof location. Hope this is helpful to all who are looking on RG Forum.
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My personal expoerience, only, but
I've driven over 400,000 miles in the last 10 years (cars) using a Valentine One, and have NEVER gotten a ticket (or even been close). They work flawlessly, and are expensive, yes, but just one error (ticket) with a $100 detector or will cost you far more than the difference in price in increased insurance premiums.
I've driven over 400,000 miles in the last 10 years (cars) using a Valentine One, and have NEVER gotten a ticket (or even been close). They work flawlessly, and are expensive, yes, but just one error (ticket) with a $100 detector or will cost you far more than the difference in price in increased insurance premiums.
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There's a lot of bad information floating around about this topic. I'll try and clear some of it up.
The laser interceptor works. It's the only system that will properly defend you from a LIDAR (laser) gun. Laser is not like radar. It is specifically targeted at each specific vehicle and typical tracking distances are less than 1500 feet although they can exceed 4000 feet with a steady hand. Usually topography keeps the distance much shorter. Unlike a radar wave that expands out from the gun and is about 150' wide at 1500' a LIDAR beam is about 10' wide at the same distance. This drastically reduces the chance of any LIDAR detector picking it up before you are tracked and nailed. Cops (at least the ones who know how to use this equipment properly) don't just shoot vehicles indiscriminately. They'll visually track the fastest car in a group and shoot that one. Or if you're alone and shot directly you're toast. A LIDAR beam travels at the speed of light, out and back. When your detector goes off with a laser warning it's only telling you to just pull over and get your ticket.
In short, with LIDAR unless you have a jammer, and AFAIK the Laser Interceptor is the only one that works, you are totally at the mercy of the men in blue. I see where delma411 had a Rocky Mountain Radar product. I hate to tell you this man but your success was one of luck, not good equipment. That stuff is junk and has never been shown in any test I've ever seen to actually work.
With radar a good detector gives some serious advantages. There are a lot of lazy cops out there who leave it active all the time rather than properly targeting and transmitting in "instant-on" mode. If you are going to get a RD then I'd only look at products from Bel, Escort/Passport and Valentine 1. They are the best out there and the performance envelopes are so vastly superior to the competition it's not even funny.
Even with a good RD you need to drive/ride smart. Use a rabbit if at all possible. There's always someone in a bigger hurry than you so let them go by and trail them 1/4 mile or so back. If there's an instant-on trap ahead they'll be the one getting a fast driving award, not you. You also need to know your detector. The good ones can get a signal at 2+ miles and it may just be a very brief chirp. Take every warning seriously. Ignore them at your own peril.
I'd also recommend using other traffic to screen yourself as much as you can and stay out of the fast lane on the interstate.
I have had a Passport 8500 X50 since 2005 and have been more than satisfied with it. The new 9500i is supposed to be even better. I've had Escort products since the original Escort I got in 1984. Solid stuff, then and now.
I took my 8500 with me on my cross country ride but it was impossible to hear and almost impossible to see in the daylight so I abandoned it to my bag after I got to South Dakota. The speed limits out there are high enough where I could ride around 75-80 and just not worry about it. In most cases if you are going 9 mph or less over the limit you're not worth the time to stop and ticket. Way too many better targets of opportunity out there. There will always be exceptions to that rule but in the South, Midwest and West it seems to follow though. You folks above the Mason-Dixon line...I dunno. I can't ever figure out what y'all are doing up there anyway.
If anyone has any specific questions please post them and I'll do my best to answer them. I spent 5 years in a traffic unit and am a certified radar and LIDAR police instructor. I got to know the Kustom radar people very well and can tell you just about anything about their equipment. You might also check out:
http://www.radarbusters.com/?source=pjn&subid=18058
http://www.radarroy.com/
This cat is an ex-LEO and he gives totally unbiased, objective reviews on the speed detection products out there.
The laser interceptor works. It's the only system that will properly defend you from a LIDAR (laser) gun. Laser is not like radar. It is specifically targeted at each specific vehicle and typical tracking distances are less than 1500 feet although they can exceed 4000 feet with a steady hand. Usually topography keeps the distance much shorter. Unlike a radar wave that expands out from the gun and is about 150' wide at 1500' a LIDAR beam is about 10' wide at the same distance. This drastically reduces the chance of any LIDAR detector picking it up before you are tracked and nailed. Cops (at least the ones who know how to use this equipment properly) don't just shoot vehicles indiscriminately. They'll visually track the fastest car in a group and shoot that one. Or if you're alone and shot directly you're toast. A LIDAR beam travels at the speed of light, out and back. When your detector goes off with a laser warning it's only telling you to just pull over and get your ticket.
In short, with LIDAR unless you have a jammer, and AFAIK the Laser Interceptor is the only one that works, you are totally at the mercy of the men in blue. I see where delma411 had a Rocky Mountain Radar product. I hate to tell you this man but your success was one of luck, not good equipment. That stuff is junk and has never been shown in any test I've ever seen to actually work.
With radar a good detector gives some serious advantages. There are a lot of lazy cops out there who leave it active all the time rather than properly targeting and transmitting in "instant-on" mode. If you are going to get a RD then I'd only look at products from Bel, Escort/Passport and Valentine 1. They are the best out there and the performance envelopes are so vastly superior to the competition it's not even funny.
Even with a good RD you need to drive/ride smart. Use a rabbit if at all possible. There's always someone in a bigger hurry than you so let them go by and trail them 1/4 mile or so back. If there's an instant-on trap ahead they'll be the one getting a fast driving award, not you. You also need to know your detector. The good ones can get a signal at 2+ miles and it may just be a very brief chirp. Take every warning seriously. Ignore them at your own peril.
I'd also recommend using other traffic to screen yourself as much as you can and stay out of the fast lane on the interstate.
I have had a Passport 8500 X50 since 2005 and have been more than satisfied with it. The new 9500i is supposed to be even better. I've had Escort products since the original Escort I got in 1984. Solid stuff, then and now.
I took my 8500 with me on my cross country ride but it was impossible to hear and almost impossible to see in the daylight so I abandoned it to my bag after I got to South Dakota. The speed limits out there are high enough where I could ride around 75-80 and just not worry about it. In most cases if you are going 9 mph or less over the limit you're not worth the time to stop and ticket. Way too many better targets of opportunity out there. There will always be exceptions to that rule but in the South, Midwest and West it seems to follow though. You folks above the Mason-Dixon line...I dunno. I can't ever figure out what y'all are doing up there anyway.
If anyone has any specific questions please post them and I'll do my best to answer them. I spent 5 years in a traffic unit and am a certified radar and LIDAR police instructor. I got to know the Kustom radar people very well and can tell you just about anything about their equipment. You might also check out:
http://www.radarbusters.com/?source=pjn&subid=18058
http://www.radarroy.com/
This cat is an ex-LEO and he gives totally unbiased, objective reviews on the speed detection products out there.
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Advice from the fuzz...
As for jammers: your average 5 oh, aint going to recognise the signs and signals of a vehicle using a jammer. But for traffic nazi's like me, If i get no signal or a jammed signal = you have a jammer and you need a traffic award LOL. Me personally I got tired of going to court with speeders so I quit writting speeding tickets.
The comments many have posted about once the buzzer goes off ... its too late= that is a very true statement, mainly with lidar/laser. If you hear the alert, it is way to late.
Good luck with your speeding. Any questions about radar/lidar/laser I would be glad to help.
Just be VERY careful if you get any type of radar/laser/lidar detectors/jammers. In most states they are illegal to even have in you possession while driving.... doesnt matter if they are on or off. Just having them on your bike or car can land you a ticket.
As for jammers: your average 5 oh, aint going to recognise the signs and signals of a vehicle using a jammer. But for traffic nazi's like me, If i get no signal or a jammed signal = you have a jammer and you need a traffic award LOL. Me personally I got tired of going to court with speeders so I quit writting speeding tickets.
The comments many have posted about once the buzzer goes off ... its too late= that is a very true statement, mainly with lidar/laser. If you hear the alert, it is way to late.
Good luck with your speeding. Any questions about radar/lidar/laser I would be glad to help.
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If anyone has any specific questions please post them and I'll do my best to answer them. I spent 5 years in a traffic unit and am a certified radar and LIDAR police instructor. I got to know the Kustom radar people very well and can tell you just about anything about their equipment.[/QUOTE]
Dead Bird Dog.... Are you still on the force or moved on to a better paying career? We use the KS radar systems too. Good stuff. Nice to not the the only guy in blue that visits this forum.
If anyone has any specific questions please post them and I'll do my best to answer them. I spent 5 years in a traffic unit and am a certified radar and LIDAR police instructor. I got to know the Kustom radar people very well and can tell you just about anything about their equipment.[/QUOTE]
Dead Bird Dog.... Are you still on the force or moved on to a better paying career? We use the KS radar systems too. Good stuff. Nice to not the the only guy in blue that visits this forum.
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Retired now..living the easy life in the civilian world.
Just be VERY careful if you get any type of radar/laser/lidar detectors/jammers. In most states they are illegal to even have in you possession while driving.... doesnt matter if they are on or off. Just having them on your bike or car can land you a ticket.
Actually, detectors are illegal only in VA and DC. Perfectly legal in 49 states.(private vehicles). Jammers are also only illegal in 1 or 2 states, not sure which. Plenty of info out there, if you look. Wish someone made a weatherproof unit integrated into the fairing, with the display in one of the gauge holes. I'd like to run one, but can't stand stuff attached to my windshield/handlebars, or something to hide from thieves, every time I leave my bike.
Jeff
Actually, detectors are illegal only in VA and DC. Perfectly legal in 49 states.(private vehicles). Jammers are also only illegal in 1 or 2 states, not sure which. Plenty of info out there, if you look. Wish someone made a weatherproof unit integrated into the fairing, with the display in one of the gauge holes. I'd like to run one, but can't stand stuff attached to my windshield/handlebars, or something to hide from thieves, every time I leave my bike.
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Radar jammers are illegal in all 50 states. Trust me. It's a federal felony (they'll never charge you though) but the state courts will. Not worth it.
http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-radar-jammer-laws.html
LIDAR jammers are illegal in a few states.
http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html
http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-radar-jammer-laws.html
LIDAR jammers are illegal in a few states.
http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html
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