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So after 16k on the stage III 110 ~ front rod bearings went

After 35k on the 113k build Front rod bearings went... (threw a ton of money at the build and was very happy with performance till it quit on a foggy night at the Florida/Alabama line on I-10 with Heatwave April fools day of 14... So a total of 51k on the skunk and on to plan b or motor III.

So the backup goes in ~ the 124 S&S... 10.8/1 and 640 lift...

1000 mile initial impressions... Quiet ~ not a bunch of the noises I have been accustomed to in my last 30 or so HD's...

Fast on the bottom or top ~ Really fast on top ~ due to the 640 lift is my guess.

A bit leary of hammering on the bottom since I am in no mood to pull my inner primary and drop the swingarm to replace an abused belt.

There are many talented builders out there and on this forum... I respect many of them and have done business with a few.

My talent is riding them ~ fortunately good times or bad ~ I seen to get in about 40k or more every year.... My second talent is breaking them; if there is a weak link in the chassis or powertrain I will expose it.

I do not make a living wrenchin but have no fear of doin my own work, I have told many mechanics that I have broken more sh.... than they have repaired ~ usually my observations are correct when it comes to troubleshooting... I do ride alot, I do ride faster than most ~ but I don't abuse.... No 7000rpm drops...

This is what I will say ~ the 124 was purchased as a great mix of dependability & power on a 900 lb bike... S&S provides a one year warranty on the engine, and two years if you purchase the throttle hog and their ecm with the motor. This alone is impressive. I could find no horror stories with the S&S 124 that were purchased as an entire unit.

When the 113 was built I did my homework but understood the risks. I am not knocking the builder I had a component failure, if the build was an issue the failure would have happened much earlier than 35k. This is what I will say ~ I know ultimately what failed, but can not state what exactly caused my crank to fail.

The 124 was cheaper to buy then the 113 build.

And the 124 is the bang for the buck ~ the bike is a rocket ~ seat of the pants.

Not a big fan of the dyno so I'm utilizing the PCV and a/t to reel it in.

More less started with a 0 map and frequent monitoring of the AFR's and trims.

S&S now is offering the 124 in granite for those of you on some of the older CVO's...

I guess the real appeal to me is the fact that the are a 55 year old company that stands behind the product on a big motor...

So nothing but good things to say about the 124 ~ I'll keep ya posted ~ should have 50k on it within a year and maybe 100k within two.

If you have any questions about the 124 or my previous headaches pm me. I am a consumer and an avid rider... And I'll tell you what I think for what it is worth...
 

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cool , been helping S&S stay afloat for over forty years .. they are my first ( and usually only ) choice in performance Harley stuff

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Nice review.. Glad your headache free so far with the 124. I hope it stays that way. You've earned it.

Will be a nice follow up to hear how she's running at 100k.


And stay away from Fla/Bama line on foggy nights :D
 

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I may go this route in a couple years, I'm definitely going to follow this thread to see how it works out for you.

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Great write up! I started to deal with S&S in 1977 to 1994. I would buy a engine from them in a heartbeat before having an engine built.
 

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I've been thinking about the bigger motor. I dropped down from the Kawi 125" VN2000 when I switched over to the Glide. That's why my first move was to pump up the motor to a 110", open up the intake and exhaust, and add the race tuner. The stock 103" was anemic.

My 110" will now give the Kawi 125" a good run for the money, but the Kawi was rated at 116hp and 141 Ft/lbs before the performance upgrades were done to it.

I've still got about 4 1/2 years on the extended HD warranty, so I'll wait to see what happens between now and then. If the 110" breaks, they will fix it. If they've got something bigger by then, maybe I'll look at an upgrade.

If I make it to the end of the warranty and haven't killed the engine, then I may look at what S&S has on the market by then. I was not really impressed by the 145" they put out a while back. Great power, but it would overheat before you could say boo in traffic on the +100* days we have in the Sacramento Valley. I've known a couple of people with them.

Sounds like the S&S 124" is a good compromise. Plenty of power without the major heat problems. I look forward to hearing how your motor does over time.
 

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I've been thinking about the bigger motor. I dropped down from the Kawi 125" VN2000 when I switched over to the Glide. That's why my first move was to pump up the motor to a 110", open up the intake and exhaust, and add the race tuner. The stock 103" was anemic.

My 110" will now give the Kawi 125" a good run for the money, but the Kawi was rated at 116hp and 141 Ft/lbs before the performance upgrades were done to it.

I've still got about 4 1/2 years on the extended HD warranty, so I'll wait to see what happens between now and then. If the 110" breaks, they will fix it. If they've got something bigger by then, maybe I'll look at an upgrade.

If I make it to the end of the warranty and haven't killed the engine, then I may look at what S&S has on the market by then. I was not really impressed by the 145" they put out a while back. Great power, but it would overheat before you could say boo in traffic on the +100* days we have in the Sacramento Valley. I've known a couple of people with them.

Sounds like the S&S 124" is a good compromise. Plenty of power without the major heat problems. I look forward to hearing how your motor does over time.
So I understand that you are under the extended ~ beware depending on the failure if the adjuster starts looking at components that have failed and they are not stock ~ they can and will deny the claim.

I saw a split set of cases failed the adjusters inspection due to the cams... He did not go any further and denied the claim. I looked at the crank and it had been plugged and welded ~ on the same motor ~ guess he did not need to go that far in his mind.

Basically what I am stating is a fact ~ I had the extended on mine and was still under the factory ~ the my bike was Stage III'd at 0 miles by the dealer and correctly annotated. When the crank went at 16k I dumped the warranty due to HD's attitude about the rebuild ~ they did not want to replace the pistons/rings even though there was visible damage due to the crank failure... Just food for thought...
 

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If my timing was a little better, you know I'd be right there with 'ya.

'Glad to see you back in the wind!!!
 

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So I understand that you are under the extended ~ beware depending on the failure if the adjuster starts looking at components that have failed and they are not stock ~ they can and will deny the claim.
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Basically what I am stating is a fact ~ I had the extended on mine and was still under the factory ~ the my bike was Stage III'd at 0 miles by the dealer and correctly annotated. When the crank went at 16k I dumped the warranty due to HD's attitude about the rebuild ~ they did not want to replace the pistons/rings even though there was visible damage due to the crank failure... Just food for thought...
I had Harley do all the motor work at the time I bought the bike. 22 Miles on it. It's all on the original invoice. We talked about taking it to the next step beyond the work I had done, but when they said that level would void the warranty, I drew the line and said no. If I remember correctly, that next step involved welding the crank and some other stuff. I told them not to do anything that would void the warranty. It's all HD parts except for externals such as the exhaust.

So far, I have had good luck with both dealerships in the Sacramento, CA area. So have most of the people I know. We'll see what happens if I do need major warranty work. This is only the second Brand New vehicle I have ever bought. The last one was over 30 years ago. I have usually relied on my own mechanical skills to keep my vehicles running.

Thanks for the heads up though. I will keep that in mind if I need to have the motor worked on.
 
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