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Hello fellow RG riders. I have been very busy with work and family the last few months so I haven't been on this site much. I also know there may be a thread on what I am about to ask, but I am unable to find it so bare with me.

I have a 2013 RG with a little over 20K on it at this time. I know not many miles compared to a lot of you, but I have a company car so I don't drive it to work and I was down a lot the past couple of years because of back surgery. :frown: But I am doing a few winter projects and since the wife is not paying attention right now I am going to spend some money on my engine. A local retailer/shop is offering the S&S Power Package Big Bore 110 inch w/ 585 chain drive cams for a reasonable price. In addition I would have to purchase another tuner and a few additional small items to complete this install. Their site claims 101 HP and 118 FT. But I am also near Zippers Performance and they have a complete 107 inch "Sport" set up that would include everything including the tuner for $500 more. I will have a competent shop that I have been going to for over 20 years do the work and I will be keeping the V&H 2-2 exhaust system I have. I'm not really chasing numbers, as I am not a redline type rider, no burnouts or wheelies. Normally the wife and I and touring type runs. A couple of interstate runs a year with the boys to make me feel like I am still under (30), at least until I get home and realize how tired and sore I am.

What I am actually asking is, anyone have experience with either of these two kits? Any builders have suggestions?

Thoughts??? :cool:
 

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It all depends on what you are wanting from the scooter. 101 is doable from a 103 with just cams. And no idea as to which kits you're referencing.

107-110 difference is not going to be noticeable from the seat, so it's the rest of the package that you'll need to look at. You'll need to compare them side by side and see which one has the best bang for the buck. Take a look at the 110 upgrade kits from the MoCo too. The Tire Shredder is prolly the one that is the most realistic as for as what you end up needing.

A note of caution, spending all that money to put 100+ horses on top of an oem crank is a risk.
 

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Hello fellow RG riders. I have been very busy with work and family the last few months so I haven't been on this site much. I also know there may be a thread on what I am about to ask, but I am unable to find it so bare with me.

I have a 2013 RG with a little over 20K on it at this time. I know not many miles compared to a lot of you, but I have a company car so I don't drive it to work and I was down a lot the past couple of years because of back surgery. :frown: But I am doing a few winter projects and since the wife is not paying attention right now I am going to spend some money on my engine. A local retailer/shop is offering the S&S Power Package Big Bore 110 inch w/ 585 chain drive cams for a reasonable price. In addition I would have to purchase another tuner and a few additional small items to complete this install. Their site claims 101 HP and 118 FT. But I am also near Zippers Performance and they have a complete 107 inch "Sport" set up that would include everything including the tuner for $500 more. I will have a competent shop that I have been going to for over 20 years do the work and I will be keeping the V&H 2-2 exhaust system I have. I'm not really chasing numbers, as I am not a redline type rider, no burnouts or wheelies. Normally the wife and I and touring type runs. A couple of interstate runs a year with the boys to make me feel like I am still under (30), at least until I get home and realize how tired and sore I am.

What I am actually asking is, anyone have experience with either of these two kits? Any builders have suggestions?

Thoughts??? :cool:
For your usage I'd recommend the S&S 110 Kit...

Whatever you choose the 2-2 pipes are going to be a handicap...
 

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It all depends on what you are wanting from the scooter. 101 is doable from a 103 with just cams. And no idea as to which kits you're referencing.

The S&S kit 110 inch kit list the HP at 101.

107-110 difference is not going to be noticeable from the seat, so it's the rest of the package that you'll need to look at. You'll need to compare them side by side and see which one has the best bang for the buck. Take a look at the 110 upgrade kits from the MoCo too. The Tire Shredder is prolly the one that is the most realistic as for as what you end up needing.

A note of caution, spending all that money to put 100+ horses on top of an oem crank is a risk.
My tech is saying something very similar. He like and deals with Zippers a lot, but suggest that if I am going to spend the money for the upgrade let Zippers do the work to include upgrading the crank.

For your usage I'd recommend the S&S 110 Kit...

Whatever you choose the 2-2 pipes are going to be a handicap...
The more I read and listen to those who know much more than me, for my style of riding both of these kits may be more than I truly need. I don't really ride in a style to utilize what these kits bring to the table...I'm a put the feet up on the hwy pegs, crank up some rode tunes and enjoy the scenery type of rider these days.

Probably just gonna do cams, lifters, adjustable rods, and a new tuner and enjoy the ride.

Thanks guys and Happy New Year.
 

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My tech is saying something very similar. He like and deals with Zippers a lot, but suggest that if I am going to spend the money for the upgrade let Zippers do the work to include upgrading the crank.



The more I read and listen to those who know much more than me, for my style of riding both of these kits may be more than I truly need. I don't really ride in a style to utilize what these kits bring to the table...I'm a put the feet up on the hwy pegs, crank up some rode tunes and enjoy the scenery type of rider these days.

Probably just gonna do cams, lifters, adjustable rods, and a new tuner and enjoy the ride.

Thanks guys and Happy New Year.
Good choice Sir. ?? Just keep in mind that a good dyno tune can make a world of difference over a canned map for your tuner.
 

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Good choice Sir. ?? Just keep in mind that a good dyno tune can make a world of difference over a canned map for your tuner.
There is a shop about 30 minutes from my house that gets very good reviews for their engine work and tuning. After I do my cams, still not sure which one, I will have it dyno tuned by this shop.
 
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There is a shop about 30 minutes from my house that gets very good reviews for their engine work and tuning. After I do my cams, still not sure which one, I will have it dyno tuned by this shop.
Where abouts are you in the Free State? Or should I say the SRoM.

The kits don't take a huge amount of set up skill. Just a competent wrench who has the needed tools and the ability to check the workmanship on the parts. In particular, they need to be able to check the jugs in a set of plates.

If you go off and start mixing parts, then you'll need more skill on the wrench. Both with the planning and the assembly.

As far as the tune goes, I'd stick with the TMax from Zippers.
 

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Where abouts are you in the Free State? Or should I say the SRoM.

The kits don't take a huge amount of set up skill. Just a competent wrench who has the needed tools and the ability to check the workmanship on the parts. In particular, they need to be able to check the jugs in a set of plates.

If you go off and start mixing parts, then you'll need more skill on the wrench. Both with the planning and the assembly.

As far as the tune goes, I'd stick with the TMax from Zippers.

I live in the southern part of The Old Line State, just off of Solomons Island.

Nope, not gonna mix parts, I'll go either S&S, or Zippers. Really leaning towards Zippers cause they are in the state and Danny F, owner, actually helped with my bike when it had an issue this past summer.
 
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I live in the southern part of The Old Line State, just off of Solomons Island.

Nope, not gonna mix parts, I'll go either S&S, or Zippers. Really leaning towards Zippers cause they are in the state and Danny F, owner, actually helped with my bike when it had an issue this past summer.

OK, I know that area, but from a while ago. When to school down that way in the 70's.

Zippers is a good shop. But if your going to go all the way to BMore, then one of the best wrenches in the region is only another hour up the road. In Shrewsbury PA.
 

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No expert here but Im thinking for what you want I would go cams, lifters, bearings, some head work to bump the compression up, intake and exhaust. Get a cam you can grow with and dyno tune it. Thats just me. Whatever route you go Im sure you will be very happy. Good luck and keep us posted.
 

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There is a shop about 30 minutes from my house that gets very good reviews for their engine work and tuning. After I do my cams, still not sure which one, I will have it dyno tuned by this shop.
What Indy shop do you use or are you looking to use? Just heard that my local Indy is closing his MD shop and relocating to Ormond Beach, FL. He's been real good to me and my bike and I hate to see him leave, so I am looking at other Indy shops I can use. Thanks!
 

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What Indy shop do you use or are you looking to use? Just heard that my local Indy is closing his MD shop and relocating to Ormond Beach, FL. He's been real good to me and my bike and I hate to see him leave, so I am looking at other Indy shops I can use. Thanks!
I am a big fan of Roy at C&C Cycle in Severn MD. Roy is a mechanic, not a tech. Don't get me wrong he can work on the newer rides no problem, but he can also diagnose without a scan tool, fabricate, and repair. He and Danny Fitzmorris from Zippers work together well together. I have been a customer of this shop since 1995.

Since I moved to southern Maryland and his shop is about 2 hrs from my house I have been looking for a new Indy shop. Thinking about trying S&M performance in Lexington Park as they are about 30 minutes away, but haven't made that move yet.

If you want a number for C&C Cycles let me know.
 
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I am a big fan of Roy at C&C Cycle in Severn MD. Roy is a mechanic, not a tech. Don't get me wrong he can work on the newer rides no problem, but he can also diagnose without a scan tool, fabricate, and repair. He and Danny Fitzmorris from Zippers work together well together. I have been a customer of this shop since 1995.

Since I moved to southern Maryland and his shop is about 2 hrs from my house I have been looking for a new Indy shop. Thinking about trying S&M performance in Lexington Park as they are about 30 minutes away, but haven't made that move yet.

If you want a number for C&C Cycles let me know.
Thanks Hawkman. I've seen their ads in local bike rags and will contact them. I see they are off of Rt. 32, so that is about 90 min from Frederick. I do that to work every day.
 
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