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Was doing some viewing on the Wideband module. It seems even as good as the PV is in basic it's really no better than a FP3 or a SEPST for that matter keeping the AFR still up in the 14s. Really considering this WB module. Is it worth the nest 400 bucks?

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I don't recall what tuner you are currently running but Imma guessing a PV. I was already running the HD Wideband with the SEPST and then upgraded to the PV and utilized the Wideband I already had. If I already had a PV only on my bike I would probably never spend the extra money on the wideband kit. But then again, I like to tinker with shit so who am I fooling? I more than likely would end up spending the money and putting one on anyway.
 
I don't recall what tuner you are currently running but Imma guessing a PV. I was already running the HD Wideband with the SEPST and then upgraded to the PV and utilized the Wideband I already had. If I already had a PV only on my bike I would probably never spend the extra money on the wideband kit. But then again, I like to tinker with shit so who am I fooling? I more than likely would end up spending the money and putting one on anyway.
Yes. I do have the new Powervision on the bike. And it runs great. Temps are almost non existent compared to the stock header. Just wonder what will my next 400+ get me, and if I did do the wide band why even spend the time on a dyno? What real world gains would that do for me? It's not a race bike. But. Honestly. I do want to know the numbers.

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Yes. I do have the new Powervision on the bike. And it runs great. Temps are almost non existent compared to the stock header. Just wonder what will my next 400+ get me, and if I did do the wide band why even spend the time on a dyno? What real world gains would that do for me? It's not a race bike. But. Honestly. I do want to know the numbers.

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If you really want numbers then just put it on a Dyno, get the numbers and pay to have it tuned completely. That's what I would do.
 
If you really want numbers then just put it on a Dyno, get the numbers and pay to have it tuned completely. That's what I would do.
Yep. I'll be at Shark week. As soon as I reserve my hotel I'll make an appointment at FM for the tune.

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I did the Stage 2 torque cam on my 2021 RGL after owning it two weeks. I’ve got the 7 year ESP with SE option so its covered for the entire 7 years. Make sure you do the smart tune with SE tuner to dial it in better than the canned map from Harley. I’m very happy with the way it runs and you really notice the power and torque difference with the Stage 2. I’m for touring, not worried about squeezing every drop of power out of the motor with aftermarket tuners. Warranty is most important for me.
 
I did the Stage 2 torque cam on my 2021 RGL after owning it two weeks. I’ve got the 7 year ESP with SE option so its covered for the entire 7 years. Make sure you do the smart tune with SE tuner to dial it in better than the canned map from Harley. I’m very happy with the way it runs and you really notice the power and torque difference with the Stage 2. I’m for touring, not worried about squeezing every drop of power out of the motor with aftermarket tuners. Warranty is most important for me.
The end result is really all that's important. You're happy. Bike does exactly what you need. That's a success.

I have the Powervision and am considering the pro tune wide band and not getting a dyno tune.

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The end result is really all that's important. You're happy. Bike does exactly what you need. That's a success.

I have the Powervision and am considering the pro tune wide band and not getting a dyno tune.

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I would rethink that and get it to a good tuner.
 
I called FM and asked them if the wideband module for the PV would benefit my stage 2. I live in MO.
He stated no. They recommend it for those that travel through elevation frequently etc.
I had the T-max on my 11’ for that reason when I lived in CO. Sea level to 12k.
 
SE-447 Torque Cam here using SEPST. No regrets whatsoever.
 
I called FM and asked them if the wideband module for the PV would benefit my stage 2. I live in MO.
He stated no. They recommend it for those that travel through elevation frequently etc.
I had the T-max on my 11’ for that reason when I lived in CO. Sea level to 12k.
He told me the same thing. I do ride all over the country. Once a year. And soon enough will do the 48 state loop in 10 days.

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He told me the same thing. I do ride all over the country. Once a year. And soon enough will do the 48 state loop in 10 days.

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Righton.
when I lived in CA I road the sierras allot, without WB, never an issue.
I guess if we have the $ to spend for optimum year round.
 
Welcome, I stuck with the SE Stage 2 kit and a HD autotuner with wideband 02 sensors for my 2020 RGS. Very pleased with the results.
I also have the same set up2020 RGS stage 2 TQ cam HD pro street with Auto tune with 8 k on the OD.Runs great BUT about 500 miles ago 2nd gear.2500//3500 rpm just does not feel right in the throttle.3rd gear the same 4th is fine all the way thru from there.Almost feels like the heat management is dropping out the rear cylinder.Going to finish the season out and get it on a Dyno and see.I was told no need to Dyno with smart tune.I have Dynoed every bike I have owned.And have a box of tuners to prove it.Sad to see the season end
 
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