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Hi guys, I've got a 2018 RGS with a 107. I've been running it with a stock intake, jackpot headpipe and Basani DNT's. Originally I was chasing after that CFR sound but only now realize that I'm not going to get it with an M8. Others have said "cam change" so I have ordered a Woods 22x. Now my problem will be the big loss of bottom end torque I will still have with the DNT's. What mufflers are out there that won't suffer to much bottom end torque loss and still have a low deep deep rumble. Im thinking Grand National, Outlaws & MK45's will perform the best but will lack the correct sound. Magnaflow Hitmen will sound good but lose torque. Right now I'm leaning towards Hi-Rollers?? Do they sound better than the Outlaws?? Big loss in torque?? Anyone have any experience with them or something similar?? Thanks in advance for your comments.
 

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Did you end up putting the woods 22x in? From my experience and talking with a couple guys on what setup I have and such I don't think it is your slip on causing the loss of torque. Typically the head pipe has more to do with that than the slip-ons. In my instance I am running dresser duals and not power duals. The difference being is the true duals do not have as much exhaust velocity coming out the big pipes and the other cylinder is not helping it out. I am going to be installing thunder torque inserts and see if I can regain some bottom end. If you are running the jackpot 2-1-2 head pipe I don't know you will do much better. I am curious though what change u will get with the 22x. It should help the lower end as well. JMO.

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Did you end up putting the woods 22x in? From my experience and talking with a couple guys on what setup I have and such I don't think it is your slip on causing the loss of torque. Typically the head pipe has more to do with that than the slip-ons. In my instance I am running dresser duals and not power duals. The difference being is the true duals do not have as much exhaust velocity coming out the big pipes and the other cylinder is not helping it out. I am going to be installing thunder torque inserts and see if I can regain some bottom end. If you are running the jackpot 2-1-2 head pipe I don't know you will do much better. I am curious though what change u will get with the 22x. It should help the lower end as well. JMO.

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I did install the cam. It was an improvement but bottom end is still suffering. I'm thinking it is close to stock performance wise below 3000rpm. I installed the tti's and that helped. I may throw on the stock muffs once more to get a proper baseline for comparison again. They say the stock muffs are as good as anything when its comes to performance. If the performance improves I will be ordering up either Hi Rollers or MK 45's.
 

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Get a good dyno tune, that might do the trick for you. If there’s not a good tuner in your area, get a hold of Lonewolf in Nanaimo, he’s excellent. Pm me if you need his phone number.
 

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Get a good dyno tune, that might do the trick for you. If there’s not a good tuner in your area, get a hold of Lonewolf in Nanaimo, he’s excellent. Pm me if you need his phone number.
Agreed. As for the exhaust............. I'm not a fan of true duals on a dresser. IMHO 2-1-2 is a better choice, and a 2-1 is even better.
 

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I ordered up some High Rollers. I wasn't able to establish which ones may have sounded better between these and the MK45's.
 

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I did the FuelMoto WM8-22X setup just like on their dyno chart. 7500 miles on it and I have no complaints. I went with the Hi-rollers, my curve is flat, 105hp/115tq. I just did 4000 miles in a week to the Rocky's and back. The bike pulls like a tractor down low! One bike was a TC 120" worked with a Woods 777. My M8 was a much better setup in the mountains and on the plains it was about even. I'd start with changing the Basani's and getting a good tune.
 

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I did the FuelMoto WM8-22X setup just like on their dyno chart. 7500 miles on it and I have no complaints. I went with the Hi-rollers, my curve is flat, 105hp/115tq. I just did 4000 miles in a week to the Rocky's and back. The bike pulls like a tractor down low! One bike was a TC 120" worked with a Woods 777. My M8 was a much better setup in the mountains and on the plains it was about even. I'd start with changing the Basani's and getting a good tune.
Are you happy with the sound? Have you ever hear the MK45's in order to compare to the High Rollers?
 

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The sound is much better than stock. The hp/tq curve is very good. for the price the FuelMoto pipes can't be beat. If I was to do this build again I would go with the MK45's! They seem to produce a similar curve but a little higher.
 

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Fuel Moto is having a garage sale before their new move, So I purchased their High Rollers and stainless 2-1-2 headers. I immediately put the slip on's and am very happy with the sound and torque. I have kissed a few frogs trying to find the right performance and deep sounding exhaust and the High Rollers fit the bill! Can't wait to see if the headers will make a difference too.

Bob
 
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