Just an FYI, the new 2025 bikes are now displayed on the HD website. I don’t see any changes from the ‘24 models, other than some different color options and an increase in price. Has anyone noticed other differences?
2025 bikes are out
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That looks like flipflop paint(iridescent)that changes color as you walk around it, similar to the green venom from a few years ago.
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ETA: played with their configurator - it has heel shifter and passenger foot boards. No lowers in the configuration.
another edit: lowers do show in the picture even though they're not in the list for "limited" package.
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Personally have never found much use for the heel shifter. Have tried many times over the years and just have never been able to get used to it.
I guess it's just a matter of what you cut your teeth on.
ETA: played with their configurator - it has heel shifter and passenger foot boards. No lowers in the configuration.
another edit: lowers do show in the picture even though they're not in the list for "limited" package.
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Personally have never found much use for the heel shifter. Have tried many times over the years and just have never been able to get used to it.
I guess it's just a matter of what you cut your teeth on.
2024 RGL Hannigan trike,2020RGL with sidecar, ,1996 Fatboy 2020RGL being rebuilt?
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Personally have never found much use for the heel shifter. Have tried many times over the years and just have never been able to get used to it.
I guess it's just a matter of what you cut your teeth on.
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Loved the heal shifter while in the Army. no scuffed up boots or shoes. Learned to live with out it now.
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Not blown away by the new colors. I am not understanding the 2k markup from last year. What justifies that? That alone will keep me on my 22 RGS for at least another year. When I probably would have been a buyer this spring.
Everyone is getting beside themselves over the 2K increase in price.
Food for thought......
2000-2005 (Early Years of Road Glide)
Food for thought......
2000-2005 (Early Years of Road Glide)
- 2000-2005 Harley-Davidson Road Glide models were part of the Touring line and typically ranged from around $15,000 to $18,000 new, depending on the specific year and any additional features.
- 2006-2015 models saw updates in technology and design. New models would range in price from $17,000 to $23,000 for the newer years, with models like the Road Glide Ultra costing more due to extra features (premium sound systems, infotainment, etc.).
- In the used market, these models typically range from $6,000 to $14,000 depending on mileage and condition.
- With the introduction of the Milwaukee-Eight engine in 2017, prices for the Road Glide increased. New bikes from this period ranged from $22,000 to $28,000 for higher-end models like the Road Glide Ultra.
- On the used market, these models can typically be found for around $12,000 to $22,000, again depending on condition, mileage, and location.
- In the most recent years, Harley-Davidson has introduced more advanced electronics, improved comfort features, and greater customization options.
- 2021-2025 Road Glide models generally cost between $26,000 and $40,000 for special edition or higher-end models (like the Road Glide ST or Road Glide Limited).
- Used bikes from these years will typically fall between $18,000 and $28,000 depending on condition and features.
The '24-up are equipped similar to the old Specials. After a 1-year-only price reduction, the msrp is back in line with what a Special was in '23, minus the $1k surcharge. Black trim and colors are more of an upcharge than in '23. Not taking into account the crazy upcharge for ghost flames. Doesn't seem outrageous in the right context. They just no longer offer a stripped-down value option like the old Standards which alienates some potential buyers.
H-D makes money on financing, and for someone shopping payments an extra $20/month may sound reasonable to get fancy paint. Unfortunately, there are fewer people in general looking to finance expensive toys these days, and this sudden rebound in pricing makes the MoCo seem out of touch with economic reality. It's tough to swallow for many.
H-D makes money on financing, and for someone shopping payments an extra $20/month may sound reasonable to get fancy paint. Unfortunately, there are fewer people in general looking to finance expensive toys these days, and this sudden rebound in pricing makes the MoCo seem out of touch with economic reality. It's tough to swallow for many.
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@Uncle Fuzzy Kevin this One has Your Name Written All Over It!
Better head out to Your Local Dealer and claim it. 😁
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Aside from the bagger racing, nothing their marketing dept. does anymore makes sense to me.
They move a primo rollout season (Sturgis) to the dead of winter and expect to sell bikes.
I guess they finger they can catch up to our pulse in spring.
They move a primo rollout season (Sturgis) to the dead of winter and expect to sell bikes.
I guess they finger they can catch up to our pulse in spring.
Thinking about it, folks with the winter itch to ride might cause more impulse buying of the new models.
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The data doesn't lie.
"Now that that's clear, how did Q3 2024 Harley-Davidson Motor Company Motorcycle Shipments go? Not great. In Q3 of 2024, it shipped 27,500 motorcycles, which means it's down 39 percent as compared to the 45,300 it shipped in Q3 of 2023." (emphasis added)
Think about that for a moment - 2023's had $1,000 surcharge added to them and the 24's came out with a lower MSRP AND no surcharge, and they still were down 18,000 bike sales.
For 2025 the MSRP is higher and paint is higher. Makes me happy I bought my 2024 at a discount last February.
There's trouble ahead.
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https://www.rideapart.com/features/738656/harley-motorcycle-sales-q3-2024/
"Now that that's clear, how did Q3 2024 Harley-Davidson Motor Company Motorcycle Shipments go? Not great. In Q3 of 2024, it shipped 27,500 motorcycles, which means it's down 39 percent as compared to the 45,300 it shipped in Q3 of 2023." (emphasis added)
Think about that for a moment - 2023's had $1,000 surcharge added to them and the 24's came out with a lower MSRP AND no surcharge, and they still were down 18,000 bike sales.
For 2025 the MSRP is higher and paint is higher. Makes me happy I bought my 2024 at a discount last February.
There's trouble ahead.
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https://www.rideapart.com/features/738656/harley-motorcycle-sales-q3-2024/
That’s a lot of snow, looks like a good day to stay inside. Yes that’s my 66 SS.
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Loved the heal shifter while in the Army. no scuffed up boots or shoes. Learned to live with out it now.
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I don't know. You may be out of the Army, but the Army isn't out of you! lol
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Yup, most of the motorcycle industry is close to needing hospice care.
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I think that's been proven another big Zeitz error. I think they had a good idea, but very poor execution.
Think about the fact that all the big indoor motorcycle shows (at least the ones in northern climates) are held in the middle of winter and people flock to them because they're anxious to do something motorcycle related when the temps are below freezing or there's 2 feet of snow on the ground. Think about how this whole thing might have worked if HD could actually ship one each of every model to each dealership by let's say end of January. They service them and then hide them in their storage area until HD's 'official' grand unveiling of the 2025 models on the appointed weekend in February. Every dealer would have a grand unveiling on a Friday evening (free beer and wine) where the bikes are all covered with black draping until the dealership representative (owner or sales manager) takes the microphone and unveils each model one at a time and gives a 3-5 minute list of details or additions to that model, saving any truly new models until the end. Perhaps the dealer could offer some type of incentive (discount or free parts) if a customer signs a purchase agreement that night, and they start ringing the bell every time someone does. They could produce a shitload more excitement than just trickling in the new models over a period of months like they do now. These tactics were extremely successful for the GM brands back in the '50-'60s.
As someone else mentioned here, HD's marketing dept. really sucks, and Zeitz is only good for selling more clothing.
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