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soldering vs butt connectors

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#1 ·
I understand that soldering is a more efficient way of bonding 2 wires together rather than using butt connectors to mend 2 wires together, but for those that cant solder, using butt connectors would be the only obvious choice.

But, I was wondering, does it make a big difference, and is it okay, if I wanted to solder the wires from the amp harnesses front and rear output speaker harness to the front pods opposite end red and black wires?

Should I do it or no?
 
#4 ·
I would not recommend soldering the wires from the amp to the speaker. As already stated, crimp connectors work just fine. Secondly, a good solder job is fine but an average or poor solder job will fail pretty quick. The insulated crimp on connectors are a buck or two more than the cheapo exposed connectors.

Also remember you're going to have to tune the amp. If you use a multi-meter to tune or a DD-1 distortion meter you will need somewhere to connect the meter leads. I use the male end of spade connectors on the amp end for just that reason. It's also easier if you ever swap speakers or decide to move wires around for whatever reason in the future.
 
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#9 · (Edited)
If you are going to heat shrink the connectors and space is limited, or you just want a nice tight splice, these uninsulated connectors are fine. Cost less too. You can also hit them with solder after crimping. Just heat the connector and feed the solder into the center hole.

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And you can get the splices with heat shrink already on them. Just crimp and heat. But they can get a little costly if you need more than a few.

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And you can get what are called step down splices. They come in handy when splicing on lighter wire to existing heavy circuits. Like when adding LED's to older incandescent scooters.

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#14 ·
If they are smaller wires find your local telephone guy and ask for "scotch locks" they are loaded with "icky pic" prevents rodents and repels moisture for corrosion resistance. He would probably just give ya a few for free. If you don't like em throw em in the drawer for another project! Strip wire, insert, squeeze together done and permanent.
 
#16 ·
I happen to have a large stock of those at home (and work). I use them for various projects. If Ma Bell can use them and send 120v through them for a T1 line, they'll work just fine for any low voltage work.

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#18 ·
Scotch locks are the bane of the automotive world..... I cannot tell you how many wiring gremlins are created from using them. We see them the most on trailer wiring issues. People love to use them to wiring their utility trailers and what not. Whats most troubling is that, at first they work great. then after time, weather, and the constant vibration of use and roads they always work them selves loose. Creates resistance that burns and shorts the wiring out. or blows fuses. or simply just doesn't work even though, from all appearances the little devil is connected fine. They are fine in a pinch but people use them and then leave them installed. Weeks or months later your chasing gremlins because people couldn't be bothered with repairing it correctly. As a mechanic, personally I hate them and wish they were never invented. Sorry.... im stepping off my soap box now. :wink:
 
#22 ·
The goal of any wire connection is to make a gas tight seal between two conductors. Soldering is, by far, the best way to do that in this case. Always use Heat Shrink over the soldered connection. Google it, there are probably dozens of videos on how to solder. The key is to heat the work, not the solder. Solder should melt on contact with the wire, not the iron. It has to flow on it's own and bond with the wire, otherwise you end up with what is known as a cold-solder joint, which is bad.

Crimp connectors are ok, but they have their limitations. Not the least is the minimal contact they have to make a gas tight seal. If air can get in there, it will corrode the wires and add resistance to the connection. You do not want that, especially if you are dealing with power connections (or powerful audio).

Speaker connections using blades are very adequate connections. As long as they are not loose. Every time you plug them together, it makes a slight scraping of the surface that removes oxidation and makes a gas tight seal.
 
#25 ·
Soldering is best, and I wouldn't touch ScotchLocks with a 10" pole. But the biggest issue with butt connectors is - being round - they're very easy to crimp incorrectly. Regardless of the tool used, if the seam is on the side, it will cause it to split open when crimped and weaken the joint.


Always crimp one end where you can see that the seam lines up with the tool, and then crimp the other end so that the crimp dimples line up with each other to ensure that the seam isn't getting split open during the crimp.
 
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#28 ·
We use the environmental splices in aviation all the time. However on my scoots and other small engine machines I prefer soldering and using heat shrink tubes.
If you never spliced a harness before which ever way you make your connection remember to stagger your splices so you don’t end up with a massive bundle. I see it all the time with first timers.


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