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Any one (or any combination) of the thoughts expressed above may be correct, but you (OP) shouldn't jump to any conclusion that you may have bought a lemon. There's a lot to be learned before you start panicking that you spent your hard earned money on a highly modified motor that might hand-grenade itself at any moment. We seemed to have jumped quickly from the only concern being the idle speed, to thoughts that it may be a monster motor build that's going to be nothing but problems, or that it's been through a fire, flood or other calamity.

I think the thought of trying to find out who the previous owner was, and what specific mods were done is the obvious first step. I'd start by checking with the service dept. to see if they had worked on the bike. The answers to most of the questions might be answered quickly as they'd have the service record details on file. If they didn't do the mods, then ask the sales dept. about getting the previous owner's info. They should be reluctant to give you his/her phone number, etc., but If that comes up empty, I'd start by calling (w/ VIN # in hand) the next closest dealer/s. If that fails, try independent shops near you, especially one that has a reputation for performance builds. If all that fails to deliver the info you need, send a private message to member - crazy4ink. He's a very knowledgeable tech that also lives in Texas and he should be able to look up the bike by VIN and should be able to point you in the right direction as to where the service work/mods was done - if they were done by an HD dealer.

The fact that it has S&S jugs on it most likely indicates that the previous owner had some serious mods done to it - maybe fairly moderate, or maybe extreme mods. Regardless of how this comes out, there's a lesson to be learned here that you need to really look a used bike over carefully before laying your hard earned money down. I personally would never buy a bike with replacement jugs, but there are others here who would, as long as you have service records that would layout exactly what's been done. Was the title clean ... or was it a salvage/rebuilt title?

No need to panic yet, but it's time you do some investigating to see just what it is that you bought. Start with the selling dealer and work your way out from there. Good luck with what ever you find out.
 
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so after blowing a Gasket on my 2011 Road Glide, I limped it to the dealership this weekend. well they had a beautiful 2020 Road Glide with autotune, pipes, handlebars and in a beautiful stiletto red. Well after not so much discussion with wife and some negotiations with dealership I road it off the lot.

Well after a few days of riding and trying to get use to the increased power of this bike I had a friend ride it, he thinks the idle is a little low. Currently it idles about 700-900 rpm and idles itself to fault and dies.
Question is with it having an autotune shouldn't it idle higher closer to 1100rpms?
And if it is truly idling this much lower, how would I go about raising the RPMs?

once riding the bike it takes it a bit but seems to ride well.
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Purty . . .
If the dealer can't fix the idle problem - take it to a good, recommended performance shop and let them have a try - if corrected there - take the bill to the dealer for reimbursement (partial or in total.)
Ride on brother!
 
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Update on what I have done and will be doing

So took the bike for a week of daily driving. Took some time to really get use to the throttle response and friction zone. So for now it runs. Really likes 3k rpm when riding around. When sitting idle it wants to run higher but is tuned to a lower idle rpm.
Found a dyno shop about 45min from home that is willing to help me find out what’s going on and what build the motor has. Plan on dropping it off Monday (next day off).
Also I think it is drinking fuel like water. Drove 2 round trips to work/class about 45miles one way. And had to refill after each round trip. I know that can be adjusted some with the ThunderMax but not enough I bet.

 
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Taking it in on Monday to the performance shop. Yeah the fuel problem I brought up with the dealership and they blew it off due to me buying it “as is”. So hopefully will get some new answers in the coming week or so. Which is fine due to working and weather coming in to my area.
 
Taking it in on Monday to the performance shop. Yeah the fuel problem I brought up with the dealership and they blew it off due to me buying it “as is”. So hopefully will get some new answers in the coming week or so. Which is fine due to working and weather coming in to my area.
what a shit dealership! they sold you a flawed motorcycle, it's not as if it's something you did! who's the dealership???
 
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Update from the Motor Company. Bad O2 sensor, after calling ThunderMax and having the remote in the the ECM it was determined that an O2 was out. Mechanic said he has ordered new sensor and will get the bike back on the dyno to inspect for anything else asap. So that explains so much of the idle, fuel mileage and etc. (ThunderMax) EFI default to a high fuel dump to prevent burning a cylinder is what we were told by them)
 
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O2 sensor fixed and bike tune to best the motor company could do with the help of ThunderMax on the line. He got it to 114 hp with 148 torque. His words it drives like a hot rod. Going to pick it up tomorrow morning can’t wait.
 
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a wide gap between HP and TQ. Wonder what cam is producing that.

@crazy4ink, you’ve seen more numbers than most…any insight?
I have seen gaps between HP and TQ. I just tuned a 131” that made 169 hp and 148 tq. It just depends on what is done to the engine.

@bigc1066 Since the tuner was able to connect to your Thundermax; was he able to find out what is in your bike? Is it a 128” or 132”? Cam? Injectors? Also keep in mind you are going from a Twin Cam to an M8 and they do ride different. These M8s like more rpms than Twinkies did. And on a side note, those big radius pipes are not helping your engine’s performance. M8s like more backpressure than Twinkies did.
 
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